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The father, signified in the classical tradition by the Sun and Saturn, the two planets of the day sect, and read from the fourth house of the parents. Modern practice often reads him from the tenth instead, so both ends of that axis are in use.

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Attributions
Calculation
Sect decides the assignment before the house does: the Sun and Saturn, the day-sect pair, take the father's signification in the classical scheme. The fourth house is the older reading; the tenth is the reading modern practice increasingly prefers. 2
Tradition
The Sun and Saturn are the day sect pair, as the Moon and Venus are the night pair, so the parents are assigned by sect before they are assigned by gender. 3Tradition: Hellenistic astrology
Disputed
House
The 10th house, in the modern reading of the parental axis 4Tradition: Modern Western astrology
The Hellenistic sources place both parents in the 4th and Lilly places the father there. Much twentieth century practice reads the father from the 10th and the mother from the 4th, inverting the older assignment. Both conventions are in current use and a reading should state which it follows.
Signification
Significator
Saturn 1Tradition: Hellenistic astrology
Significator
The Sun 1Tradition: Hellenistic astrology
House
The 4th house, taken with lands, inheritance and the end of the matter 2Tradition: Traditional Western astrology
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The Sun and Saturn, the Day Pair

Ptolemy's chapter on parents, in the third book of the Tetrabiblos, sets the pattern the rest of the Western tradition inherited. He does not give the father a house. He gives him two planets, the Sun and Saturn, and reads the father's fortune, standing and length of life from how those two sit in the chart: whether they are free of the malefics, how they stand to the Sun's own light, and whether they rise before or after it.

The pairing is not arbitrary, and its logic becomes visible once the doctrine of sect is in view. Hellenistic astrology sorts the seven planets into a day team and a night team. The Sun, Jupiter and Saturn belong to the day; the Moon, Venus and Mars belong to the night; Mercury takes whichever side it rises with. The father's two significators are the luminary and the outer planet of the day sect. The mother's two, the Moon and Venus, are the luminary and the benefic of the night. The parents are read as a sect pair before they are read as individuals.

That structure does real work in a reading. In a chart born by day the Sun is the stronger of the father's significators and Saturn the harder one. By night the emphasis reverses, and the same Saturn that merely disciplines a day chart's father can weigh heavily on a night chart's. Sect is the first thing a traditional astrologer establishes and the thing a purely modern reading is most likely to omit, which is why one placement can be described as sober authority in one book and as absence in another.

The Fourth House or the Tenth

The planets are one route to the father. The houses are the other, and the two branches of the tradition do not agree on which house he occupies.

Lilly's Christian Astrology, the fullest English statement of the medieval house catalogue, puts the father in the fourth, along with lands, houses, tenements, inheritance, hidden treasure and the end of any matter. The fourth is the lowest point of the chart, the ground under the native, and a tradition that reads land and inheritance there reads the man the land came from there too. The tenth, in the same catalogue, carries kings, princes, honour, preferment, office, trade, and the mother.

Modern astrology very often reverses this. The tenth is read as the father, on the argument that the midheaven is the public, authoritative, outward parent and the fourth the private and interior one. Much twentieth century psychological astrology writes it that way without noting that it has swapped the traditional assignment, and a chart interpreted under one convention will not match a chart interpreted under the other.

The atlas records both rather than choosing, because the disagreement is genuine and old, and because the argument on each side is about something real: whether the parental axis is sorted by gender, by sect, or by which parent the native experiences as the household's public face. Anyone reading a fourth or tenth house placement should say which convention they are using before they say what it means.

Sources Christian AstrologyWilliam Lilly with The Contemporary Astrologer's HandbookSue Tompkins

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10th House, Houses

Why this is disputed. Modern practice commonly reads the father from the tenth instead of the fourth, following a gendered split the Hellenistic sources did not make. Some modern schools reverse the assignment or make it depend on the chart's sect, so the father's house is argued rather than settled even among contemporary astrologers.

4th House, Houses

Lilly's fourth house holds the father, his lands and his inheritance.

Source Christian AstrologyWilliam Lilly
Saturn, Planets

Ptolemy gives the father Saturn, the outer planet of the day sect.

Source TetrabiblosClaudius Ptolemy
Sun, Planets

Ptolemy gives the father the Sun, the luminary of the day sect.

Source TetrabiblosClaudius Ptolemy
Sources
1. Tetrabiblos
Claudius Ptolemy, W. Foulsham, 1900Book III, the chapter on parentsView the Source
2. Christian Astrology
William Lilly, Thomas Brudenell, London, 1647Book I, on the twelve housesView the Source
3. Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune
Chris Brennan, Amor Fati Publications, 2017View the Source
4. The Contemporary Astrologer's Handbook
Sue Tompkins, Flare Publications, 2006View the Source
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